Normal Bladder

6/24/09 07:40AM
Moonlight_Magic
Hi, i have a couple of questions for those of you who seem to have somewhat large bladders.

1 Do you ever wish that your bladder was a more normal size or do you prefer having a larger bladder?

2 Do you find that having a larger bladder enhances your fetish or hinders it?

The reason i ask is that sometimes i can find having a larger bladder a bit of a nusiance. For example, It can take hours for me to fill it up enough to what one would consider desperate to pee (although i get very strong bladder spasms at around 900 mls i can stretch my bladder up to 1.9 liters if made to continue holding). Secondly i dont seem to be able to lose bladder control and wet and neither can i initiate urination anywhere i feel its inappropriate to urinate (ie a public place, or sitting in a car etc), so regardles of how badly i need to pee my desperation can drag on for hours and hours unless i find somewhere suitable and voluntarily urinate.

As a result i sometimes feel that my holding partners would prefer it if i had a more normal bladder.

If you too have a larger bladder, what has been your experience regarding the above?




 
6/24/09 07:42AM
Moonlight_Magic
PS whlist im here, im considering doing some videos for xtube. Would anyone be remotely interested in seeing me piss nearly 2 liters after a good hold?
 
6/24/09 08:09AM
luvmybladder4
MM, you pose an interesting question. My maximum capacity is around 1100 ml and normal daily is much less. I've often wished for a superbladder like yours. BUUT, would I trade my ability to lose bladder control, along with the other negatives you mention, for the capacity increase? I have to say "no" as the loss of control is one of my most enjoyable aspects of this fetish.

On your PS, both I and I'll bet many others would be VERY interested in watching you empty that mighty bladder!
 
6/24/09 09:00AM
bluemonday25
Unfortunately, my bladder is quite average, about 750ml before the pain becomes unbearable. I would prefer to have a larger bladder, because I find the holding and the releasing to be the most arousing aspect of this fetish. I am not at all into losing control, or having accidents. I also have a suspicion that those with large bladders, experience greater pleasure when they release their huge tanks at one time, than someone who takes a normal piss.(anyone else think this is true?) And there are other benefits, such as long road trips!
I don't have a holding partner, but if I did I would be honored to hold wih a champion bladder, who could inspire me to hold more.

MM, I say go for it if you like,and I'm sure we would all really appreciate you sharing. I've always wondered what a 2 litre piss would look like. Take care.
 
6/24/09 11:26AM
Peter-P
Hi Moonlight_Magic

I really would like to see one or a few of your best (near or even real) 2 liters pisses!
But I also would love to see how you cope with urges, spasms and major spasms after overfilling your strong bladder to 1950+ mls...! As you seem to be a really brave and strong fighter and not just the "owner" of a very expandable water-"bag"

Regarding the capacity and never ending desperation phase:
Did you try holding a lot when wearing really tight clothes (really tight and non stretching jeans, etc)?
Did you try holding a lot when wearing a strong training corset or disciplin corset, limiting your capacity?
Did you try to fill your bladder to a level above the 900 mls and then squeeze your bladder into tight clothes/corset?
Did you try to fill your bladder to top level (1900+ mls) and then squeeze your bladder into tight clothes/corset?

If you like to find your limit, I think one of thes ideas will bring you to even your limit.
But, please be careful, when you squeeze your overfilled bladder into tight clothes/corset...!

And a 3rd idea:
What do you think about uploading your video as a file to e.g. GigaPeta or any other place in a higher than xtube quality...?

Peter
 
6/24/09 11:27AM
gottago
Hi MM!

I too, like you seem to feel it takes forever for my bladder to fill to be super desperate. I start getting those spasms, or strong urges around 500ml but when I get past that they calm down and my muscles learn to just hold tight and not let go at that point. I start to leak around 800-900ml but that's when I get up and walk. But my major spasms and major leaking isn't until about 1,000-1,100 ml. My max I've measured was 1,150 ml. I wish it wouldn't take so long for my bladder to fill. Sometimes I think I get a little dehydrated because I don't always drink a lot so my body just needs it and it doesn't go into my bladder as quickly. I do also think I retain water at certain times and that hinders the process as well.

I, too don't loose full bladder control. I think my leaking prevents me from doing that because it relieves the pressure. I think it is harder to go in the car in which I think it has something to do with the sitting and the position of everything inside and also the pressure isn't as great. But I can go to the bathroom at anytime at the 'drop of a hat'. Yes, I would love to see your video. Almost 2L is a super amount!
 
6/24/09 02:18PM
Snacer
Hi, Moonlight_Magic!

"1 Do you ever wish that your bladder was a more normal size or do you prefer having a larger bladder?"

I prefer to have big bladder (my record is 1860 ml), and I wish it will even increase in future. Big bladder is convenient, because I don't need to go to the toilet often, and if it's no good toilet around, I can hold it for a long time. I begin feel desperate when I have about 1L in bladder, but can hold it imperceptibly for others till I have about 1.4L in bladder.


"Secondly i dont seem to be able to lose bladder control and wet"

I also never have accidents, last was in childhood when I was 4 y.o., since that time I never peed myself. It seems like my sphincter is stronger than my bladder. I mean, my bladder aching very bad and became hard as wood when I'm bursting to pee, but if I try to hold it, I can squeeze sphincter and prevent peeing myself. When I refuse holding, I do it because of very strong pain in bladder, but not because of inability to hold my pee inside. I don't sure is it good or not. On the one hand, I like that I have such strong spincter and can control myself very good, and also because of it I can fill my bladder till almost bursting state (I like theese feelings, it's exciting for me). But on the other hand, I want feel how it is - wet myself accidentally.


"2 Do you find that having a larger bladder enhances your fetish or hinders it?"

I sure that having big bladder enhances my fetish. I ilke to feel my bladder when it's big and hard, and I want to make my bladder even bigger.


"PS whlist im here, im considering doing some videos for xtube. Would anyone be remotely interested in seeing me piss nearly 2 liters after a good hold?"

Of course, MM, it's great idea! Especially, it would be great to see your bulging bladder (while sitting, standing, laying on back) before peeing. It would be great to see how much you bulging and how you holding your pee. It will be excellent if you'll make this video, and I very want to see it. But why X-tube? X-tube makes not good quality of video. May be you can upload file to some hosting (sendspace.com, gigapeta.com, etc...) in better quality than X-tube?
 
6/24/09 03:05PM
luke1980
Unfortunately my bladder is not very big: at 700ml the pain is incredible and my record is 850ml!
i think that have a big bladder is very hot for people who have our fetish. i hope to increase my bladder capacity
 
6/24/09 10:38PM
watchingherhold
Hello MM, you goddess of the piss-holding world.

1. Alas, odd as it may seem and awkward as it is to admit, I am not particularly into holding myself, although I have been known to on occasion, though mostly unintentionally (There was something interesting on TV and I didn't feel like missing any of it to go to the bathroom, that sort of thing). As a side-effect of this non-fetish, I have never measured my capacity and doubt it to be great.

2. Ah, here is where I seem to get really odd. You see, as my very title would suggest, my fetish lies in watching or reading about others holding, particularly females. I always love to read stories about girls who like to savour their full, bulging bladders, who may even want them to swell and bulge even more (a pity there are so few of those sort of stories to be found). I do notice, though, that I do tend to get more turned on when my bladder is filling (like now, as I type ;P), and usually seem to get a better "response" than I do with an empty bladder.

P.S. YES!!! I freely admit that I've been waiting for a long time for you to pose that question, and my answer is a resounding yes! I, and probably everyone else on this board, would absolutely love to see your magnificent bladder in all its massive glory, and its legendary release on film.

Btw, if I may pose a counter-proposal to you, have you ever considered trying to hold even more than your record 1.9 liters? Perhaps even forcing yourself to by, I dunno, handcuffing yourself to a chair, or even sealing your urethra shut somehow so that, even at such an immense capacity, you still couldn't pee even if you wanted to?

My apologies if any of the above have hit any raw nerves or made you in any way uncomfortable.
 
6/25/09 07:46AM
Peter-P
Hi again Moonlight_Magic

Snacer writes:
Of course, MM, it's great idea! Especially, it would be great to see your bulging bladder (while sitting, standing, laying on back) before peeing. It would be great to see how much you bulging and how you holding your pee. It will be excellent if you'll make this video, and I very want to see it.

That is a good idea!!!

Please MM, do some exercised showing us how hard you have to fight and how rockhard your bladder is.
How you handle urges, spasms, cramps, major spasms, etc.

Also please show us how different movements or positions work in this extreme state: standing up from a chair and sit down, walk, go up and down stairs, lay down and stand up, etc...

Also some exercises to make it a little harder, as sit-ups, or higher leg lifts, Sholva pressing onto your bladder, etc.

I mean not one of those vids showing a few minutes (of many) about holding, then telling how hard it is and then let go pee, etc. - but a little documentation showing us how you live when your bladder is that extremely overfilled to nearly bursting and ripping part, but you are able to wait as long as you like - even cope with the normal tasks of your life - including all kinds of movements or extreme exercises as standing the external extra pressure of Sholva trying to press your bladder to leak etc.

Please let us find out how you feel, how you handle the situations and how you have to fight to be able to do all this.

Thank you for your offer to make a video
 
6/25/09 02:43PM
Katrina
6/24/09 07:40AM
Moonlight_Magic
Hi, i have a couple of questions for those of you who seem to have somewhat large bladders.
1 Do you ever wish that your bladder was a more normal size or do you prefer having a larger bladder?
Really, I do not presently consider myself to have a “large” bladder.

I say this because medical text volumes given for the human bladder go as high as 1000ml.
Hence, it would seem holding up to 1000ml is a matter of will-power and self-restraint, unless you are really leaking in spurts before then in which case you might have a small bladder.

These days, I’m having a great deal of trouble holding back more than 1.1L of urine.
Technically this might put me in the 1L+ range, but right now I barely qualify.
So, I am answering these questions in the past tense, to a time when I was able to hold back a lot more pee than I’ve been able to recently.

Now, to answer the question – no.
I very much preferred having a large bladder, and wish to have a large ( 1L to 2L ) bladder again.

2 Do you find that having a larger bladder enhances your fetish or hinders it?

I have always found having a larger “max limit” enhances it, but I can kind of see what you’re talking about.
Why it would hinder it if the volume at which the urge developed were also large.

For me, the best thing about a large bladder was I could enjoy for hours the intensity of being able to manage holding in a wicked urge to pee; which of course isn’t possible once someone reaches their “physical limits”. Having a physically large enough bladder meant, not only could I handle intense feelings of being desperate to piss:
1.) I could enjoy it without reaching a “physical limit” much longer.
2.) If I had to, I could handle real life situations of not being able to go with less worry about reaching the point where it’s not possible to hold it anymore.

But if my bladder took to long to fill?
I’ve never had this experience before.
But if I ever did, then yes, I like it better to have the amount where I start “feeling it” smaller.

I guess you could say, as long as I have a “tough” or “flexible/stretchy” bladder – having a larger limit enhances my fetish.
But if I ever found my bladder was just “large form the start”,
especially if the difference between when I “first feel it” and when I “can’t stretch it anymore” was small - then that would hinder my enjoyment.

The reason i ask is that sometimes i can find having a larger bladder a bit of a nusiance. For example, It can take hours for me to fill it up enough to what one would consider desperate to pee (although i get very strong bladder spasms at around 900 mls i can stretch my bladder up to 1.9 liters if made to continue holding). Secondly i dont seem to be able to lose bladder control and wet and neither can i initiate urination anywhere i feel its inappropriate to urinate (ie a public place, or sitting in a car etc), so regardles of how badly i need to pee my desperation can drag on for hours and hours unless i find somewhere suitable and voluntarily urinate.

As a result i sometimes feel that my holding partners would prefer it if i had a more normal bladder.

If you too have a larger bladder, what has been your experience regarding the above?

Well, I’ve never considered it “too large”.
I do understand what you are talking about though.
And yes, that would hinder rather than enhance this fetish for me.

To me “too large” would refer to how much my bladder had to fill before I first start to feel the urge.
For “maximum limit”, how long I can hold in that feeling before I run out of room, bigger is better.

As for the part about never “loosing” bladder control – GAW’D I WISH I HAD YOUR GIFT!!!

I’ve always been the type to instinctively resist peeing until I couldn’t stand it anymore.
I’ve never known why, I’ve just always been like that when it comes to not going pee for as far back as I can remember.

When the whole thing with my boobs and uterus growing too soon for the rest of me started (Certain parts of my body seriously misread the memo about when puberty was supposed to start, so I had a 13 year old’s uterus and breasts when the rest of me was about 8 or 9), my bladder got squished between a teenager’s uterus and a little kid’s hip bones. For a girl like me, that was absolutely horrible.

From about age 9, the “small tickle” would start about 30 minutes to an hour or so after my last trip to the bathroom. It was really hard to ignore, quickly grew into a clear urge, and it was very hard to handle the feeling. It was never more than an hour after a trip to the bathroom before I started feeling like I had to go again; and 2 or 3 hours before the urge to urinate was driving me so far out of my mind I couldn’t even think strait – I just wanted to pee any chance I could get.

Once I made up my mind I wasn’t going to let my bladder get away with making me go when ever it wanted to anymore, and started practicing trying to make it bigger, I was able to extend how long I could handle the feeling without going. But my “physical limit” didn’t go up until the rest of me started catching up with the parts that decided to become a woman 4 years too early. By the time I started measuring capacity my hips had caught up, giving my pelvis the normal amount of room, and I measured my “max” at about 650ml to 750ml.

The most I’ve ever held was 1506ml. But I’ve always started feeling a slight “tickle to pee” after about the same amount of time between trips to the ladies room; roughly an hour or so. (Although my proportions have grown to be normal, and quite lovely IMHO thank you, on the inside I still have a small problem with my uterus being tipped to far over, so it still tends to press down on my bladder more than it should.)

Recently I’ve measured “the tickle” at 175ml, “clear urge” to be 225ml, which I think is normal to a little on the small side; and an urge starting to spread up the front of my bladder at around 375ml. The only things to have gotten “larger” are how well I manage holding it back; and what my “max physical limit” is. And those are good things to make larger…so I am happy as it is.


~ Autumn
 
6/26/09 03:26AM
wtlinda

I like having a larger bladder a lot.

It very much enhances my fetish. I can get desperate without taking a great deal of time by planning ahead: I eat very light that day so there's plenty of room in my stomach for water and liquids, and there's no irritating water retention from the salt in food. Then I drink a whole lot, maybe 20 oz (~ 600 ml) every 15-20 minutes, or as soon as there's room in my stomach for more. At that rate I get full in 1-2 hrs and really desperate by 2 hrs. I like holding, but only after I can feel my bladder. I enjoy the feeling of it getting fuller, so I prefer these quicker holds. I can get impatient with the longer ones where there's no noticable increase in pressure in my bladder for long periods of time. I've done them to see if they result in a greater holding capacity, but I'm not sure yet whether that's actually the case for me. I sometimes get bladder spasms that can ruin a hold for me, which is extremely irritating when it happens early on, before I get to my capacity. I mean, I like having accidents, but only if I'm truly very desperate, and not as a result of these kinds of early spasms. I don't seem to have iron sphincter muscles like you do. Its almost a matter of thinking it makes it so - I think "I'm not going to lose it and wet myself, I'm not, and then my bladder starts spasming and it starts spurting out! Is this a 'nervous bladder' type of thing? This happens sometimes, and other times I don't have that problem, or at least not until I've reached my capacity. But it totally amazes me that you - or anyone - can have bladder spasms and still not wet. The only way I've been able to do that is with sexual stimulation. I'm not totally sure how or why that works, but it does. Is it just a strong distraction, or does it cause the sphincter muscles to contract and stay tight? I don't know, probably the latter. I also like wetting, very much, and having a larger bladder means more copious wettings, longer wettings, and wettings that are much more exciting for me and others - partners or potential partners - who are into it.

As far as you posting holding/peeing videos, I'm not sexually into other females holding/peeing but I'd definitely like to see yours out of curiousity, and I know you'd make some people at xtube very happy if you posted any there!
 
6/26/09 09:18AM
Moonlight_Magic
Thankyou for the replies, im reading through them all.

When i say my bladder takes a long time to fill i mean it takes quite a long time for it to reach its limit. When i say my limit i mean the maximum capacity i can tolerate pain wise. At 1.9 liters i can no longer tolerate the discomfort and urinate voluntarily. I have not tried pushing further than that to see if i would wet if i continued to hold. Then again i though that i would wet if i continued to hold past my limit when it was 1.5 liters but my bladder just seemed to stretch again. I guess it must have a point where it refuses to stretch anymore. I was once told, when i used to practice yoga regularly, that i was unusually flexible joint wise, so maybe my bladdr follows suit lol.

To answer peters first reply, no ive not tried wearing tight clothing or a corset but i may well try that at some point in the future. I have had sholva press on my bladder and i do know that when im very very full i may leak very slightly during sex, I can also get a very small dribble when or if i cough or laugh hard when im holding 1.5 plus. However the leaking is not substancial or does not progress into full blown wetting (ie not enough to even leave a noticeable wet patch on the bedding the majority of the time).

Sorry if there are any typos in this post, i slashed my hand earlier on a glass whilst doing the washing up (damn thing just broke), was patched up by a nice paramedic with some dermabond, steristrips and a bandage so my typing is a little slow today as a result.

I also bled all over sholvas kitchen..,

Not exactly the kind of leakage or accident that one would hope for, i know...

 
6/27/09 04:29AM
Peter-P
Get well soon, Moonlight_Magic !

I hope the cut was not too deep and will heal quick and without any complications nor too much pain!

__________________________


Linda,

is it possible, that you get these early spasms when drinking too fast?
Normally a bladder reacts with urges and in extreme with spasms against quick and extreme expansion...



 
6/27/09 10:03AM
bursting_2_piss

- Have you ever wished that your bladder was a more normal size or do you prefer having a larger bladder?

I like having a big bladder! I like it for the convenience of being able to hold it a long time, and less worry of
where the next toilet is. My biggest pee ever was measured at 1892 ml; my bladder can hold as much as
1000ml - 1200 ml in a normal everyday situation and be, at worst, "uncomfortable but ok"; its only above that
level I start to get fidgety and start to consider it "getting urgent".


- 2 Do you find that having a larger bladder enhances your fetish or hinders it?

I find it enhances it! I recently played a game with a friend where we only get to pee every
12 hrs like clockwork. (we tried something like every 8 but it proved to be not
that challenging to our bladders). My bladder released 1300 ml - 1450 ml at my
scheduled pee breaks. I find being able to hold large volumes exciting and stimulating
and find the same very attractive in a partner; I also like when my partner finds my
abilities exciting. Its nice, in a couple situation, to be able to agree that "we'll just wait and
train our bladders" and hold the urge for some hours together. Admittedly it takes longer
to get "really full" but that just means you have to start earlier and wait longer, by denying
the bladder relief starting some hours earlier in the day.


- i get very strong bladder spasms at around 900 mls i can stretch my bladder up to 1.9 liters if made to continue holding.

I'm about the same, I measured and noticed my responses during my recent holding games and sometimes. When my
bladder is in a "bad mood", it might spasm as early as 950 ml, although when my bladder is happy the spasms tend
to start closer to 1300 ml.


- i dont seem to be able to lose bladder control and wet and neither can i initiate urination anywhere i feel its inappropriate to urinate

This is where we differ! One I reach the point of bladder spasms, all bets are off. The earlier ones I can usually fight by concentrating
on holding with all my strength. As I pass the 1400 ml + mark they could very well cause me to be unable to hold it (although I don't
wet, I run to the toilet, but if I made myself not get up and run and try to hold anyway, I'm sure I'd lose some pee).


- As a result i sometimes feel that my holding partners would prefer it if i had a more normal bladder.

I prefer a partner who prefers me the way I am. If that made sense


- whlist im here, im considering doing some videos for xtube. Would anyone be remotely interested in seeing me piss nearly 2 liters?

LOL, do you really need to ask? Yes please!!!


 
6/27/09 09:32PM
holdingonhard
I am sure that we would all like to see your xtube videos.I don't have any lesbian leaning but it is always interesting to see someone hold to capacity.
I have always found a big bladder to be an advantage. My max is 1600ml but that is when I drink a lot quickly. I can't seem to last as long when it is the result of a "normal" day's worth of fluid. In fact, some days at work I find myself dancing when I know that my bladder can hold more but if the urine is concentrated I can't wait too long. I also don't want to seem desperate at work so I get edgy more quickly than when I am at home.
I do sometimes worry that I have stretched my bladder too much and that it willl come back to haunt me. I have been told that holding too often will give you a "floppy" bladder and that can lead to incontinence. Since I am NOT into wetting, only desperation that worries me.
I guess to answer your questions- I am glad that I don't have a small bladder and yes, I would watch an Xtube video of desperation.
Have a great night!
 
6/28/09 01:56AM
wtlinda
Peter: I don't think drinking water fast is the cause of the early spasms. I can hold to capacity or near it, it seems, regardless of whether I drink water fast or let my bladder fill slowly. When I get the early spasms they seem to be caused by other factors.
 
7/6/09 01:46PM
tnt1p
I would like to see you holding to max on x tube.
I think a larger bladder is an advantage, although mine is not that large, my max is 1200 but i start to leak a bit around the 800 mark if i move around. Although i dont loose control completly it gets too painful at close to 1200 and my bladder feels rock hard.
 
7/6/09 01:47PM
tnt1p
I would like to see you holding to max on x tube.
I think a larger bladder is an advantage, although mine is not that large, my max is 1200 but i start to leak a bit around the 800 mark if i move around. Although i dont loose control completly it gets too painful at close to 1200 and my bladder feels rock hard.
 
7/6/09 07:50PM
WS-Guru
I too, like most --- don't have a huge bladder, but it's a comfort to know that every time I take a trip somewhere a mere 500mL isn't going to be what makes me have to stop in the middle of travel. Although I have yet to eclipse the 1-liter mark myself (yet, possibly?) - the sensation of a full bladder is what I enjoy. Does it enhance the feeling of sexual experiences? Yes, to a point --- more so if the female I'm with is also into the fetish. I'm not much for wetting, so my enjoyment usually concludes when my bladder can no longer hold anymore - and I measure what I've been able to hold inside. From what I've heard females have gained a much more pleasurable sensation from being (at the very least) comfortably full. Having said that, would sexual contact be better if I was with a female partner who was currently holding a massive amount --- yes, given she is comfortable enough to enjoy it herself. Hope that pretty well explains my views, holding/desperation is really a key point(s) here with this fetish, so enjoying it to the most and helping females enjoy it to the most is what I'm all about.

Moonlight Magic, I'm sure I speak for hundreds by saying....even just the sight of seeing a beautiful woman void such a large amount would be a time that would not soon be forgotten. The determination and self-will to remain strong and hold it all in until you've reached even 1500-1700 mL is a true testament to your desire to wanna increase your volume. I would FULLY enjoy seeing you (or any woman, I've also had the privilege of seeing "wtlinda" void an amazing amount as well on xtube) - burst with whatever your maximum hold would be. If it be 600mL or 1600 mL ---- the ability and desire to hold on until your body just no longer can is what sets you ladies apart from those who give in early. My hat continues to be off to you all for your amazing abilities to hold such large amounts.

Cannot wait to see the outcome of this thread!
 
7/8/09 04:52PM
Nerissa
I don't find having a large-ish bladder affects the fetish at all, but then, I drink far, far more fluids than is probably normal, so it wouldn't take long for my bladder to fill anyway - I've looked at these 24 hour holds that people have done recently, I just don't think I could drink as little as 3 1/2 litres of water in a 24 hour period! I'm a 6-litre a day girl, I think because I get a dry mouth really easily, and I think that excludes being a 24-hour all-day girl, although if I ever kick the water habit I'll give it a go.

Medical training, now that'll kill a fetish for you. Although the current rotation has killed my whole sex drive I've become a 24-hour medical-brain girl with no space in my head for any of the other stuff that makes me, me...
 
10/27/09 01:26AM
PottyParityPariah83
1 Do you ever wish that your bladder was a more normal size or do you prefer having a larger bladder?

I actually have a very small bladder. Generally I go every hour or two. If I drink a liter or two I'll be very desperate in an hour, exploding by two!

2 Do you find that having a larger bladder enhances your fetish or hinders it?

I've wondered what it would be like to have a huge bladder but I think I owe my fetish to my smaller bladder. It was through being desperate often that I developed this kink. Since I like the feelings of helplessness and vunerability, having to pee frequently has caused me to like my small bladder. With a partner I could see this as an advantage, I could likely get desperate multiple times for them in a short period. I also kind of like envying the bigger bladdered. A person with a tiny bladder will never know the conveinence of a larger bladder, but if your into desperation that can be a good thing. Seeing others able to hold so long makes things more intense .